Last week, fellow running mom, new vegetarian, and kick ass Spanish homework procrastinator Bethany, posted this blog in response to the article from the New York Times "Plodders Have a Place, but Is It in a Marathon?" in our cafemom.com running forum.
Over the past week, I've read/heard a few comments that kept bringing me back to this article, and I can't get it out of my head. I'm totally stealing B's blog topic, but I need to vent.
Let's begin, shall we? Exhibit A:
“It’s a joke to run a marathon by walking every other mile or by finishing in six, seven, eight hours,” said Adrienne Wald, 54, the women’s cross-country coach at the College of New Rochelle, who ran her first marathon in 1984. “It used to be that running a marathon was worth something — there used to be a pride saying that you ran a marathon, but not anymore. Now it’s, ‘How low is the bar?’ ”
How low is the bar? How about, as low as the fact that last year, over 1/3 of the population of the United States of America was not only considered overweight, but OBESE, and this year, that number has only increased. Don't even get me started about the rising epidemic of childhood obesity.
Over the past week, I've read/heard a few comments that kept bringing me back to this article, and I can't get it out of my head. I'm totally stealing B's blog topic, but I need to vent.
Let's begin, shall we? Exhibit A:
“It’s a joke to run a marathon by walking every other mile or by finishing in six, seven, eight hours,” said Adrienne Wald, 54, the women’s cross-country coach at the College of New Rochelle, who ran her first marathon in 1984. “It used to be that running a marathon was worth something — there used to be a pride saying that you ran a marathon, but not anymore. Now it’s, ‘How low is the bar?’ ”
How low is the bar? How about, as low as the fact that last year, over 1/3 of the population of the United States of America was not only considered overweight, but OBESE, and this year, that number has only increased. Don't even get me started about the rising epidemic of childhood obesity.
So, instead of celebrating the fact that people are getting off of their butts, attempting to create a better lifestyle for themselves, and setting AMAZING examples for their children, let's instead criticize those people for being too slow. Let's call their achievements "a joke" Yes, that sounds like a good plan.
But Ms. Wald's comment isn't the first I've heard like this.
I personally have been laughed at (I'm not kidding) because my PR marathon time of 4:37 is slower than Oprah's PR of 4:30. Besides that, I've been told that anything over 4 hours doesn't mean you are a serious runner anyways.
I personally have been laughed at (I'm not kidding) because my PR marathon time of 4:37 is slower than Oprah's PR of 4:30. Besides that, I've been told that anything over 4 hours doesn't mean you are a serious runner anyways.
You got that friends? I don't care if you get up at 5:00 am for 5 months, to get your running done before the family wakes up. I don't care if you gave it EVERYTHING your body had, if you quit smoking, drinking, nights on the town, lost 50 pounds in the process, or went from not being able to walk 2 miles to RUNNING 26.2 miles. If you don't break that 4 hour mark, your marathon means nothing.
Disgusting, isn't it, that in the wonderful, supportive world of running, we have (more than a few) bad apples.
I get the safety and logistics of having a cut off time. I completely understand why runners may get pissy when someone else, on a whim, decides to "run" a marathon, never trains, barely survives the thing, and walks around bragging from then on out "oh yeah, I did a marathon, piece of cake." Yeah , I can see how that grinds your gears. Heck, I feel unworthy compared to many runners, even those much slower than myself, because I haven't been able to ever commit 100% to my training. You have to respect the marathon, bottom line.
But would I EVER take away the accomplishment of another runner, who's personal sacrifices and struggles I may never know, just because they aren't fast enough? NEVER.
I've seen the back of the pack. Both on my own accord, and as a volunteer, sherpa-ing in other runners. And I'll tell you one thing: 90% of the people in the back of the pack are giving it all they've got. They are FAR from being a "joke".
So what is the standard of "quality" when it comes to a marathon? Since this is MY blog, I'll give you my standards:
If you put in the training,
If you RESPECT the distance,
If you give it everything you have, in your body and in your heart, and strive to be the BEST you can BE...
...then wear your medal proudly. YOU have a place in the marathon.
And I think those few bad seed elitists should remember exactly where their paycheck comes from. Like John Bingham said, "The sport is fueled and funded by people like me".
Let's all just love this sport for the million reasons we do. And be thankful that with the ever growing running population in this country, we are each afforded more and more opportunities in so many ways, whether it be a sponsorship, an opportunity to travel, write a book, win a running company sponosored blog contest, watch a marathon on national television or even just having more local 5k's to race because there is more of a demand.
To end this post on a happy note, let me share a bit from a kick butt response to the NYTimes article, called "Missing the Essence of the Marathon" by Mary R. Wittenberg
And I think those few bad seed elitists should remember exactly where their paycheck comes from. Like John Bingham said, "The sport is fueled and funded by people like me".
Let's all just love this sport for the million reasons we do. And be thankful that with the ever growing running population in this country, we are each afforded more and more opportunities in so many ways, whether it be a sponsorship, an opportunity to travel, write a book, win a running company sponosored blog contest, watch a marathon on national television or even just having more local 5k's to race because there is more of a demand.
To end this post on a happy note, let me share a bit from a kick butt response to the NYTimes article, called "Missing the Essence of the Marathon" by Mary R. Wittenberg
"To us, it’s about conquering the distance and conquering self doubt...A marathoner is a marathoner regardless of time. Virtually everyone who tries the marathon has put in training over months, and it is that exercise and that commitment, physical and mental, that gives meaning to the medal, not just the day’s effort, be it fast or slow. It’s all in conquering the challenge."
Happy running my friends. Keep doing what you do, enjoy YOUR sport, and YOUR race :)









35 comments:
Well put! No one should try to take away a marathoner's achievement no matter how they got to the finish line (unless they cut the course).
In terms of speed, I wish I had worked on getting my shorter distance times down before making the leap from 5k right into marathon. I think it would make the marathon training easier for me so that's what I plan to do next.
Hear Hear Heather! And kudos to Mary Wittenberg for a great perspective and for orchestrating an awesome race in NYC!
Amen! Although I haven't run a marathon (yet), I truly believe that anyone who does is amazing, no matter their time. Thank you!
You have a very well founded view on the topic. Running a 4:37 marathon definitely gets my respect!!
Great point of view. This article keeps popping up ALL OVER the place. And I am with you. Why would you EVER want to deter someone from trying to make their health better? I love running because anyone and everyone can do it...all shapes, sizes, colors, weights, etc.
I got beat in my first Marathon by a man with frizzy grey hair and 3 inch thick glasses. If everyone were zero percent body fat where would the fun be??
I think that this article was written to stir the pot...I sure hope so anyhow.
OK I am off to read the other article.
Standing, no, RUNNING ovation for you, girl!! Nicely put. I just completed the NY City Marathon in 4:39:31. Slow by many people's standards, fast by my co-worker's standards. As one of my co-workers said, "I can't drive 26 miles, never mind RUN 26 miles!" I'm 53, have run 4 marathons, and my best time is 4:22:19. I trained for 6 months before every marathon I ran. That along with helping my wife attend to my 24 year old son who has muscular dystrophy. Sure, I could have done speedwork, gone to the gym, and done more than running long and short training runs for my six months of training. But, in the big picture, I'd rather be able to enjoy more quality time with my family and the experience of a marathon with whatever time I finished. I'd rather NOT be an elite runner whose entire life revolves around training to run faster at the expense of having a personal life, and not enjoying the experience. It's all about appreciating the fact that we can run, do run, do enjoy the experience, and DO FINISH the marathon. The time to me is secondary. Big hug for you and your comments.
Beautiful...thank you!
It steams me when people mock runners like Oprah. I wish I could run a sub 4:30 like she did. By year's end I will have logged 1800 miles--more than a lot of folks who have BQd. That frustrates me. At my pokey pace I can be on the road for as long as some folks take to blast out an 80 mile week, but my plodding only covers 50 or so miles. More miles = faster runner, but the catch-22 is that if a person starts slow, it takes a lot longer to run those miles and with jobs and families it's really difficult to find a balance that works.
Kudos for recognizing that speed ≠ effort.
I appreciate your post. I've never run a marathon and probably never will, but I would surely be one of the slow folks if I did.
Putting your heart into it and being the best you can be doesn't necessarily translate to being the fastest. Why is everyone so hung up on how long it takes?
Great post! I'm training for my first marathon and although I want to do well and have a great time I also want to finish! Training with a 1 year old, a full time job, and a hubby getting his masters is a little more difficult than someone without those responsibilties. Thanks for the thoughts!
Great Post!! I couldn't agree with you more!! Anyone who trains and gives it their all deserves ALL the credit!!!
i personally think it is harder to run a marathon in 5h+ than in 3h+. i have never run that long. i respect anyone who attempts the distance in an educated manner (with training - i think those who run untrained risk their health and potentially their lives, and i am glad they are a minority). running is one of the humble sports, and it would be nice to keep it that way.
Wow....I avoided reading that NYT article because I knew she'd be talking directly about me....
Thanks for reaffirming my love and desire for this sport....regardless of my marathon finishing time!
Thank you Heather!
As someone training for their first marathon with an expected completion time of 6 hours I really appreciate your blog and the supporting comments.
As a blogger who's blog is called Fat Girl Running my focus is on just taking that first step to move it, move it.
That Coach well she can bite my arse, my slow moving, fat arse.
Great post, Heather!
I'm proud of my marathon time, even if it is over 4 hrs! As should anyone who trains for and runs a marathon.
Heather,
I totally agree with your critera. I am 0-16 in my efforts to break 4:00.
I would love to be able to break 4 hours, qualify for the Boston marathon.
There is a place for everyone in the marathon. Marathons are hard. Period. Walking a marathon does not diminish the accmomplishment.
If anyone thinks walking a marathon is easy, lace up the shoes and get out there for 6,7,8 hours.
I hope I get another chance to break 4 hours. If not, I will be 0-17 and I will still be proud to call myself a runner and a marathoner.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's that exact attitude (of the woman you quoted initially) that have kept my from being able to really let go and see myself as a "real runner." I was always the chubby kid that avoided all physical activity for fear of embarassment and failure. But now I'm training for my first half marathon and have lost almost 40 lbs in the last year since I started running.
Thanks for sticking up for us plodders!
Nicely put! In addition... I've noticed something else about the treatment of "4:30+ runners"... the crowd support, water, and food at the end!!!
I do run under 4 hours but I respect people who CAN run for 6-7 hours. I know I wouldn't be able to do it!!!
Sometimes with my double marathons or if I have many in a row, I'll run slower (for me)--- around 4:30 or a little slower than that. And there is a HUGE different in crowd support AND marathon volunteer/director support!!! I came in around 4:30 recently and people just stared as we finished. no chearing, clapping, anything! And the food/water at the end was pretty bare boned. Even the race director-- who earlier was delightfully calling out names as people finished-- was silent!
4:30 is by far NOT a bad marathon time, but they were acting like "just get this over!"
I was pretty upset about that, especially know there are people that work their butts off to get to a 4:30 and then they get met with a half-hearted reception.
That's my peace :)
Great post. I agree with you completely.
I was FUMING when I read that article. Definitely share your sentiments.
Great post!!! I couldnt agree with you more. I am a heavier runner and slower then most but I am still a runner!
Wow - how frustrating! You say things much better than I ever could, so I pretty much just posted your blog on my blog today.
Wow - I hadn't seen that article. I could understand complaints like that if there was a prequalification for the race, like the Boston marathon, but I guess she's long since forgotten her first marathon, 25 years ago. I'm sure she did just perfectly - couch to marathon, no problem. She can think she didn't accomplish anything if she wants, since running a marathon has turned into a joke, in her eyes, but when I run finish my first one, I will take pride in saying "I ran a marathon".
Oh my gosh, this post got me so fired up! That is just awful that people have those kinds of attitudes. I am slow, and have only run halves so far but I'm sure I will be doing good to break 5 hrs in my first marathon and I will be thrilled with that. I have never thought people who walked or ran the halves I've done slower than me were a joke or not worthy, I think they are even more awesome because they're working at the goal for a longer period of time. I love your thoughts on it all and completely agree! I wish more and more people would take up running so there would be more great races created.
Well said!!!
Great blog and great responses. Just yesterday someone asked me if I'm a big runner and I said, "Well, I like to run but I'm not very good at it."
I think I've been sucked into the mindset that I have to be fast to be respected. I've run three halves and two full marathons and logged many hours in training. Thanks for reminding me that my speed isn't as important as my dedication.
Great post, I totally agree!!!
Thank you for writing this! Why can't more people understand this? Anyway, I really needed to hear it.
Amen! Well said!! It disgusts me that some people would have such mean attitudes. EVERYONE who finsihes a marathon shouuld be damn proud of themselves. great post!
OMGosh! I think I wrote this post. I totally agree. Every effort should be praised. Fitness and good health don't happen over night. It's a life long process. Where ever a person is in their own journey toward that goal, they should be encouraged and respected. Period!
Elite runners are amazing. Elitist runners are jerks.
I finished my first marathon in 5:45 and I am pretty sure I worked just as hard, if not harder than those who finished with BQ times that day.
I pride that comes from finishing a marathon does not discriminate based on the time it took one to finish.
I have witnessed "fast" runners emotionally distraught and angry because they missed breaking 3-hours by a mere 11-seconds. It makes me feel sorry for them.
I guess that I should no longer be allowed to sing the National Anthem at sporting events because I am a bad singer....
All the best,
Ron
here here!
If you run then you're a runner. If you're serious about your running then you're a serious runner. It's just that simple. Seems to me that the people who criticise are the people who don't. Runners respect runners fast or slow and applaud the fact that we all try.
Thank you. Glad you posted this...I was so sad and angry reading that article. Last time I checked a marathon was 26.2 miles or 42.2 km. Whether is run at a steady 6:00 pace, or a 13:00+ pace, the distance is the same. I agree that with obesity on the rise, those that choose to be active and be positive rolemodels should be applauded and congratulated, who cares how long it takes them. We can't all be elites, but we pay a fee and put money into the city just like the faster ones. The elites have Boston... I will never qualify, but I don't think that makes me any less worthy if I enjoy it.
Great post! We all run our own race ;)
Great post! I am a new runner, planning on doing a half marathon late next year, and my goal is just to put my all into it and finish the thing with the best time I can achieve. I suspect that some of the folks in this NYT article would call me a "joke" and not worthy of the HM, but you know what, I don't even care! Slow as I may be, I know I am worth it and I will deserve to be there, because by the time I get there I will have worked my rear end off to make it. And it is so much better than spending the weekend on the couch...as so many people do all too often these days.
Thanks for the great blog!
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